Where Do You Live?

Where Do You Live?

A friend shared this quote with me.  Thought you would appreciate it.

“Jesus Christ lived in the midst of his enemies. At the end all his disciples deserted him. On the Cross he was utterly alone, surrounded by evildoers and mockers. For this cause he had come, to bring peace to the enemies of God. So the Christian, too, belongs not in the seclusion of a cloistered life but in the thick of foes. There is his commission, his work. ‘The kingdom is to be in the midst of your enemies. And he who will not suffer this does not want to be of the Kingdom of Christ; he wants to be among friends, to sit among roses and lilies, not with the bad people but the devout people. O you blasphemers and betrayers of Christ! If Christ had done what you are doing who would ever have been spared’ (Luther).” 

— Dietrich Bonhoeffer (Life Together: The Classic Exploration of Faith in Community)

9 Replies to “Where Do You Live?”

  1. Wow. This is what I try to tell Christian Moms who want to homeschool their kids to "protect" them from worldly exposure (rather than for educational reasons), but much more eloquently put. It's so true…

  2. Very affirming words. Our 16 year old is attending a secular school for the 1st time in his life this year. It was a bumpy road – but now a number of his friends, none of them believers, are coming to our home and asking questions. Not as "comfortable" as the friends he used to bring home from the Christian school he used to attend, but so much more exciting and rewarding – please keep us in prayer

  3. Last night as I started discipleship with my M neighbor, the last call to prayer for the day, Maghrib, began. It went on through most of our discipleship time, and I was glad to be home. The story we looked at together, he will pass on to his oikos. This morning, I woke up to the first call to prayer, and went to a new Discovery Bible Study that I hadn't been to before. There are few things I enjoy as much as studying and applying God's Word with cousins as they discover the Straight Path, and become true disciples of Isa.

  4. @J Oh
    Was Luther talking about children or adults?
    Are all children saved?
    How old was Jesus when He began His ministry?
    What happened in Jerusalem when He was 12?
    Does God require us to train up our children in the way they should go first or send them out to be companions of fools?
    Even this ministry is providing training for adults to learn how to disciple and plant churches.
    Are you suggesting that God wants us to send our children out to be ” surrounded by evildoers and mockers” without any teaching or training or maturity?

    1. Martin Luther’s audience was adults. We are taught by Scripture to protect, but also prepare our children for the world. Each child’s walk to adulthood is different. Some mature early and need to be prepared early. Our modern education system forces children to grow up too fast. This means we have to prepare our children earlier than ever before. This post was not about children, it was about adults who have responsibility to prepare children for life in the real world. The pace of that preparation will be determined by circumstances and capacity of the children. Sometimes, as in war zones, children are force to grow up too fast in order to survive. As adults, we have to be ready to prepare them for what they face.


      David Watson
      From Seoul, Korea

  5. Most adults aren’t prepared to face the evil doers and mockers, much less children. You can probably guess, I homeschooled my kids. They seem to be much more prepared than I was at their age. I don’t understand how people like J Oh don’t understand that children need protecting as well as educating. Then they can be introduced to different situations as they are ready.

    I found you and the website on church planting by clicking through links when I was reading something else. I really like what your doing.

  6. Greetings. I am an uplifter of missionaries in the field, mainly the 10/40 Asian window. Your article on “Insider movement” ( Could have had a better name, sounds like some secret society) My wife and I visit the mission field and rapidly learning cultures that I thaught we knew. To quote a dear missionary friend in Northern Thailand “Adopt five L’s” Look, Listen, Learn, Link, Love. Wow..I am now practicing this method and it truly works. At one mission post they have a Sunday service and two things stand out to me.
    Firstly, this particular tribe are not task oriented as we are in the west and they constantly turn up late. When spoken to, they just shrug their shoulders and say that it is just their culture. We teach them accountability and honouring God etc to no avail. We can’t send them all away and get a new group?????
    Secondly, attending the services.are some transgender folk who have asked Jesus into their lives and so very keen to learn, yet they are distraught at the prospect of giving up their life style. If they continue to ignore God’s direction on this matter, do we ask them to leave and send them spinning backwards into the lustfull world? We work on punctuality by always being early and ready to start and making a decision on the second point is very hard. I find it hard to minister to missionary folk when we come alongside because of these issues. One final point………We in the west have the same problem. Service starts with worship leaders on the platform and slowly the people come in and then a huge rush to be seated in time for the end of worship. After putting up with it for a long time, the pastor addresses the people and tells them that they need to honour God etc. Would they attend a football match or a wedding late? No way. So for the next couple of weeks the congregation turns up in time for worship, praise the Lord. But wait, there is more………….After two or three weeks things go back to normal.
    It;s our culture we say. I really need help on this issue that tends to divide people when confronted (using God’s way)

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